Mike's Notes
This interview with Martin Fowler was in a recent Refactoring Newsletter.
Resources
- https://martinfowler.com
- https://refactoring.fm
- https://refactoring.fm/p/growing-the-development-forest-with
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lurbDAEU0KM
- https://www.thoughtworks.com
- https://tidyfirst.substack.com/p/forest-and-desert
Growing the development forest - with Martin Fowler
Martin is chief scientist at ThoughtWorks. He is one of the original signatories of the Agile Manifesto and author of several legendary books, among which there is Refactoring, which shares the name with this podcast and this newsletter.
With Martin, we talked about the impact of AI on software development, from the development process to how human learning and understanding changes up to the future of software engineering jobs.
Then we explored the technical debt metaphor, why it has been so successful, and Martin's own advice on dealing with it. And finally, we talked about the state of Agile, the resistance that still exists today towards many Agile practices and how to measure engineering effectiveness.
Show notes / useful links:
- Cruft, Tech Debt, and High quality software is cheaper:
https://martinfowler.com/articles/is-quality-worth-cost.html - Measuring Developer Productivity with qualitative stuff too:
https://martinfowler.com/articles/measuring-developer-productivity-humans.html - Code review isn't just pre-commit:
https://martinfowler.com/bliki/RefinementCodeReview.html - Thoughtworks's Haiven tool:
https://github.com/tw-haiven/haiven - Building Boba AI:
https://martinfowler.com/articles/building-boba.html
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